Be fair and dont delete this post!

[Unregistered]

I made this post to explain why i didnt attend MC/onyxia when you first started and why i did the past few weeks.

When you guys first started i was moving from job to another one and due to the time difference i couldnt attend Fri/Sun MC runs because raid start time was the time i wake up for work, Fri = Sat and Sun = Mon here and our weekend is Thur/Fri which mean Wed/Thur there in the USA. Here in Kuwait when you get a new job the first 100 days are test period so i couldnt take anytime off to attend the raids.

Ok, why didnt you attend Onxyia then?
I wasnt keyed at that time. i got my key on late December.

Why did you attend raids past few weeks when Kub decided to leave the guild?
At that time i didnt know he was gonna leave the guild, he only told me when he really left the guild. and i took some time off my job just to raid with you guys after i completed my 100 days at work, and had to wake up 4 AM everyday for that.

I wasnt gonna "use the guild to gear up and leave like kub" because if i wanted that i would've left long time ago and not just stand there watching you guys get the epic loots because i have to work and couldnt attend.

And why i outbid Falin even though i knew what was his bid?
No one said anything about Falin getting the next Leaf. And i thought Jagernacht was supposed to get that leaf because he/she already have the sinew but couldnt come.

Why i outbid him with small margin?
I only had 165 dkp at that time.

If i wanted to stab the other hunters in the back i would've outbid them when i knew they were gonna bid with the minimum dkp ammount. i passed on some of hunter gear that dropped the past few weeks for other hunters just like how they passed on the helm i took.

Tamales was my first guild since April 2005, and im not posting this to get back or something.

And Sterg, try to be a little open minded and not to kick ppl for stupid reasons. I didnt say anything that day because i just woke up from sleep and didnt know what to say. i knew you already made up your mind and there was nothing i could say to change that.

Thanks for TRUSTING me. Later.


Elking

[Delty]

OK, now I'm confused. I understand all the points about work, time difference, bidding on stuff, blah, blah, blah (remember, it's just a game.) What I'm confused on is why you left. We all (or at least *I*) must not know the real story. I thought you quit Tamales so you could be in the same guild as Kub since you guys are friends in real life? To me that seemed like a perfectly normal explanation, and the explanation I thought was true.

[Unregistered]

i left cos me and brey had a talk before onyxia run and he pointed out that im not welcomed in the guild and i "dont fit in there" and im only using the guild to gear up and then leave just like kub, so i left before he kick me.

[Claud]

I moved this to the officer private forums first because its an unregistered user posting, and second to find out if any of it holds water before being allowed to stay.

[shiraz]

It 'sounds' nice, but its a little too convient. Why wasn't anything ever said to an officer about the times we raided and how it conflicted with his schedule? How did it take until December to get his Onyxia key? We had raids on UBRS on Thursday for a -long- time.

But once we start downing Onyxia on a regular basis and get Domo on farm status suddenly the work schedule allows for raiding?

Riiiiiight. Sure dude.

[Stergil]

Posting unregistered? We didn't remove your forum account, you have public access. Unless you didn't have an account to begin with for the ~1 year you've been with us. Yeah you were real involved with the guild apparently.

For someone who has a lot to say in a post you had little to nothing to say when I spoke with you. I spoke with you for about 15min prior to ony start time to near end of the ony run.

It's now what, 2 days after the conversation took place and you have all this to say?

I gave you every opportunity to say something and I can probably count on both hands the total amount of words you said to me.

You had all these issues with work.. not one word was said to me or any of my officers. We had no knowledge of this. Furthremore I'm insulted that you would even try to pass this off as truth. Months ago when we were struggling to get a full 40 for a raid you were there either leveling an alt or on your main doing your thing. When asked to join you declined. Don't give me this work shit.. you were online.

You 'pass on some hunter stuff for a few weeks, etc' ... what is that nonsense? You were at how many MC raids? MC raids that hunter stuff actually dropped at? We've had very few hunter drops in the last few 'weeks' and I don't recall you being at a whole lot of MC runs except for pretty much the day after kub quit.

I did not have my mind made up to remove you, I had my mind made up that I wasn't happy about a few things. I laid each and every issue I had with you on the table and you had NOTHING to say. A time or two I had to ask if you were still there to make sure I wasn't talking to myself.

If you were at all these other raids with us then you knew about the hunter cooperation to distribute the leaf & sinue fairly, based on senority. If you 'thought jager was next' then you knew god damn well YOU WEREN'T next for the leaf. You need to stick to one side of the batter's box because switch hitting is just making you look like an ass.

I find it ridiculous that I gave you what? 30-45min to talk this over with me and you had maybe 3 sentences to say. Then 2 days later you come on our forums posting a public message about this crap. If you really wanted to resolve the issue you would have talked it out with me then. If you really didn't want to 'get back at us' then you would have sent it in a private message.

Posting this message, in this fashion, has helped me feel more confident that I did the right thing in encouraging you to find a new guild.

Public drama is just that.. public drama.. you gain no respect or any influence on the situation by airing this crap out in the public.

Thanks for giving us a REASON to TRUST you, Later.